unlocking certain skills.

[Doer]

I don't know how you had great professional standing at less than 3k rifle Tigerman, but you must have had some mad general skills to pull that off. I had 2.4k rifle and 4k handgun (both of them natural) before i reached "great".

I became great in professional standing in hg and ran around sweating a bit to see if i could unlock serendipity from a general or evade skillgain, but didn't get it until i went out and hunted a bit. I find that odd considering serendipity skillgains come most often for me during a defensive act.

Edit:

After browsing through this thread again i've found that there is good information but also a lot of confusion and misinformation. So for anyone wondering when they unlock a specific skill, i recommend checking the wiki under skills, and then remembering this:

There are (at least) two different metrics for progress toward hunting skill unlocks. The first is professional standing, which can be found by hit ability as described by Paolo in the wiki and an earlier post here. This is used for unlocking such skills as marksmanship, serendipity, coolness & etc.

The second metric is completely independent of professional standing. It is your minimum damage with whichever weapon type you are most skilled with. This is what determines when you unlock skills that affect your minimum damage (imagine that ) such as RDA, wounding and killstrike. Rifle and Handgun skill do NOT affect this minimum damage ability, so chipping them in will not affect when you unlock these skills. What will help are the weapons tech skills (laser weapons tech if you are a laser hunter, etc), anatomy, etc. As i understand it, weapons tech skills are the only ones that significantly affect both your professional standing and your minimum damage.

[Kjetil]

Originally Posted by Doer

Rifle and Handgun skill do NOT affect this minimum damage ability, so chipping them in will not affect when you unlock these skills.

Rifle and Handgun skill will help indirectly to affect minimum damage. Reason for this is that Rifle and Handgun skill helps to raise pro standing. Some skills unlock when pro standing reach a specific level and some of those unlockable skills have a direct influence at f.ex minimum damage.

/Kjetil

[DarkFire]

Originally Posted by Doer

Rifle and Handgun skill do NOT affect this minimum damage ability, so chipping them in will not affect when you unlock these skills

So if a person is lvl 10k in rifle and lvl1 with handgun, he will do same % of min dmg with both handguns and rifles?

[Doer]

Originally Posted by DarkFire

So if a person is lvl 10k in rifle and lvl1 with handgun, he will do same % of min dmg with both handguns and rifles?

Actually it doesn't matter which level he is in rifle and handgun, if it's the same weapons tech a person will always do the same % min damage. E.g. ep-40 pistol and mk2 carbine (both laser weapons). You can check this for yourself. I imagine the same is true of all light melee weapons (whip, shortblade, and powerfist) and separately true for all heavy melee weapons (longblade and um....longblade) but i haven't really investigated it.

Now as i said before, it is possible that rifle or handgun skill do have some miniscule effect on damage. If so you would see a difference with a huge spread between handgun and rifle, but i don't think that's the case.

I'm not sure what kjetil is on about. Perhaps some of the higher unlocked skills that are unlocked by prof. standing (commando, combat sense) affect damage, but afaik all damage-related skills are unlocked by damage %, and professional standing- or health- related skills unlocked by prof. standing, so there's a complete separation of skills advancement.

[Paolo]

Originally Posted by Doer

[...]The first is professional standing, which can be found by hit ability as described by Paolo in the wiki and an earlier post here. [...]

Thanks for the reference, Doer.

Here's a link of the small guide I've written both here on EF (in my Diary) and on our mighty Wiki.
Hope you'll find it helpful!

Paolo

[luledanne]

What other skills do i need to get Avoidance? i have 3850 in evade and still dont got Avoidance??

[Pretender]

Originally Posted by luledanne

What other skills do i need to get Avoidance? i have 3850 in evade and still dont got Avoidance??

general skills play an important role on this skill.

get alertness, athletics, dexterity up. maybe bravado too

[sir odd]

Animal Taming unlock around level 80 Animal lore & ~70 Zoology
(apologies if this was already posted...)

Edit: Extra skill required

[DarkFire]

Originally Posted by sir odd

Animal Taming unlock around level 80 Animal lore
(apologies if this was already posted...)

It doesn't depend on just animal lore, if at all.

[Lilu]

Hello all. I have been playing for about 3 months, mainly using axes for hunting. I have been watching this thread for a while, and have suffered several recent 'disappointments' as nothing has unlocked yet or when I expected it to. I have put my stats below, but when am I going to unlock something, anything??? I have not chipped at all, just spent a fortune recharging axes! Maybe the figures will help deduce whats changed after the VU.

Agility:: 41 Alertness: 398 Courage: 1087
Intelligence: 28 Athletics: 729 Dexterity: 637
Strength: 52 Bravado: 1252 Perception: 602

Combat Reflexes: 1379 Heavy Melee Weapon: 1217
Inflict Melee damage: 1156 Longblades: 3629 Melee Combat: 1962
Hit Ability: 2.0 Crit Hit: 4.4 max/min%: 28.6%