Skills when sweating

[Jowy2000]

One of the biggest benefits of sweating is the defensive skills right? Particularly evade.
my question is then, how are defensive skills gains in swamp camp vs neas?
I'm not sure, but my guess is that defensive gains will be much better in swamp camp for a while because of how many mobs there are running around attacking you. But won't they begin to cap and give very few skills as the player's skills get higher? Then would it be wiser in terms of defensive skilling to go to neas?

Also, sweating gives courage, will you get different skill gains in courage depending on the level of the mob or number of mobs nearby?

I guess I dont really know that muchabout what affects skill gains :X

[WoenK]

From sweat gathering you also get courage, concentration, psyche and intelligence.
The defensive skill gains are probably higher at Swamp Camp, you get a more hit there and die more often.
For sweat gathering skills Neas feels better, you spent less time getting to the revival term

[Mega]

Originally Posted by WoenK

From sweat gathering you also get courage, concentration, psyche and intelligence.
The defensive skill gains are probably higher at Swamp Camp, you get a more hit there and die more often.
For sweat gathering skills Neas feels better, you spent less time getting to the revival term

Agility, alertness, athletics and combat reflexes too.

I prefer swamp camp - I gave up on Nea's Place over a year ago - it just became death valley for me after they moved the revival terminal

Old pic:

[Jowy2000]

The defensive skill gains are probably higher at Swamp Camp, you get a more hit there and die more often.

I agree, but my issue is whether or not the mob level affects the skill gains. I have no idea if it does or doesn't O.o
Though I guess in most cases, even if mob level does affect it, swamp camp would still be better, it would have to be a big impact since I die in 1-2 hits at nea's and it could take like 8-9 at swamp camp, which also gives me time to regen because of their weaker attack and my evade skill.
Either way, I'd still like to know ^.^

My general thought has been that neas is better for sweating and swamp is better for defensive skilling.

Another note about courage. Sweating doesn't seem to be a half bad way of skilling courage, with sweating and evading, 2 mutually beneficial skills, you'd think gains would be pretty good right? It is an HP stat so I figured it would be worth noting.
I guess no one intentionally skills courage though.


Nice pic Mega, about how much sweat was that?

[Oleg]

If you want skills, stay away from Nea's and Swamp Camp.

Find a quiet place on your own with small mobs, and sweat solo. You'll get far more defensive/combat skills than you do in a big group.

[itree]

The more often I get hit the more defense skills I seem to get. So I'd say the Swamp is better for skills than Nea's. I did notice that you tend to get a bigger amount of skill per hit from a larger MOB, but the difference was not sufficient to offset the higher frequency of hits you can sustain with smaller hitters. This is possibly why people skilling Evade typically hunt Tants, which swarm you but don't bite too hard.

The downside is that when you set out to gain more defense you will likely also spend more time running back from revival, so will get less sweat/hour. Since I don't bother actually selling the sweat that doesn't bother me too much

All in all Swamp camp, or any other thick spawn of smallish critters will skill you up faster in my experience.

[Jowy2000]

ok that answers that
Yea, more defensive skills = less sweat :/ but with high enough evasion skills and hp, combined with some focus O.o it wouldn't be too bad. ( well, armor/faps would do it too but what noob doing sweating wants to waste an hours worth of sweat on decay)

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by Oleg

If you want skills, stay away from Nea's and Swamp Camp.

Find a quiet place on your own with small mobs, and sweat solo. You'll get far more defensive/combat skills than you do in a big group.

Problem with the quiet places is the lack of healers.
Swamp camp is ideal for defensive skills, Neas for the others.

[Ivanna Ana]

Originally Posted by Oleg

If you want skills, stay away from Nea's and Swamp Camp.

Find a quiet place on your own with small mobs, and sweat solo. You'll get far more defensive/combat skills than you do in a big group.

I would agree with Oleg here.

My SG skills are only 1482 but evade was low because of my early technique of sweat and run. I could have acquired more Evade skills.

I sweat alone now so I can skill Evade as well as First Aid, hand gun, rifle . . etc. I want to be able to use higher end FAP's when I go against Troxie Domi, Alphas, and other I/C/S mobs. You don't get much of profit margin than we do SG at Nea's or Swamp Camp because of decay obviously.

GL to you.

[Immortal]

The gain in evade are minimal. You need evader lvl 10 (above evade 1000) to even notcie a difference in mobs hitting you. And that's the small ones. (okay maybe level...5?)

If any serious sweat gatherer's have evade skill higher than 1000from purely sweat gathering...please post! SG+evade skill