Numbers Don't Lie ! (Real Price Of Sweat)

[Wody]

You will never get any skill-increase from refining anything, this includes ME.
You will never become more efficient, you have a fixed 20% chance of getting any sweat, just like anybody else

[Alice]

Originally Posted by Bluewave

1. Do you get skills for creating ME from sweat and Force Nexus ?
2. Does ME sell faster than Sweat ? (is the demand / offer better for sellers)

1. nope
basically the refiner decays
but see it that way, no chance to fail on that either (yet, maybe next VU)

2. depends
ME can be sold at auction
see, ME is used by 2 main groups of ppl
the first group is the TP chip user
those use the ME to move faster from point A to point B, which isn't a great sign for patience
hence, imo its unlikely that you find one of those who is coming to PA to buy ME instead of going to auction (faster and most ppl avoid PA lag/spam etc.)

the second group is the healing (and focusing) skilling group for sweaters
those are usually quite close to the naub camps of the sweat production, so they might as well buy sweat or ME right away
in what amounts, depends, also on the price

but i say it that way
if you would sell ME at auction for like 210%, you effectively get, after auction fee, like 205%
means, if you street trade you shouldn't push it and rather give at least a bit of that fee saving to your customer
else he could go to auction, which is faster #D

Originally Posted by Bluewave

I have been sweating for 3 weeks now and getting quit a lot of bottles but I find it borring to stand at PA TP spamming the trade channel with "Selling sweat 0.6" and finding out that 3 min later someone comes up and posts "Selling sweat 0.52" or whatever...

thats pretty much the reason why a sweater union wont work
there are way too many ppl who "control" the supply (not that everyone else couldnt make an own supply for himself)
especially ppl who got enough sweat to get a gun and some ammo to start hunting and finally get rich!

Originally Posted by Bluewave

It seems that less people in the trade channel advertise for "Selling ME".

So if I take my sweat and transform it to ME will I be able to sell it easyer ?

the base question here isn't necessarily who buys ME, but rather, who buys the sweat and what do they do with it

most sweat i saw tends to be bought by sweat resellers or by ppl who transform it to ME to sell it at auction
somewhere all the pages at auction gotta come from

so, seems that can be more profitable if done right, especially if you got a quite cheap nexus supply

Originally Posted by Bluewave

Last thing: At what level of sweating skill (if any) will my sweating become more efficient ?

the SG skill itself doesnt seem to improve sweating (nor does concentration)
the chance to get sweat in a pull is pretty exactly 20%
average pull in the long run is 12 sweat

evade and HP help most to get more sweat, since you stay longer alive
oh, and focus bubbles, so you aren't interrupted while concentrating and hit

[Aandar]

Originally Posted by Bluewave

Do you get skills for creating ME from sweat and
Force Nexus ?

Nope

Originally Posted by Bluewave

2. Does ME sell faster than Sweat ? (is the demand / offer better for sellers)

Yep (in my experience)

Originally Posted by Bluewave

I have been sweating for 3 weeks now and getting quit a lot of bottles but I find it borring to stand at PA TP spamming the trade channel with "Selling sweat 0.6" and finding out that 3 min later someone comes up and posts "Selling sweat 0.52" or whatever...

Annoying

Originally Posted by Bluewave

It seems that less people in the trade channel advertise for "Selling ME".

So if I take my sweat and transform it to ME will I be able to sell it easyer ?

Yep (ime)

Originally Posted by Bluewave

Last thing: At what level of sweating skill (if any) will my sweating become more efficient ?

At infinite level Sweating cos is always 20%

[SparkyJordan]

Originally Posted by ATBLOODy

Gather sweat to learn the basics > deposit > stay at your own level > enjoy.
Why even bother discussing the price of sweat when it really is 'for free'.

The whole reason I'm even reading this thread is to learn what is a fair price for sweat. Lots of people willing to buy the stuff for really cheap, and if I didn't find out what the average was, I'd be ripped off constantly. I'm not looking to make a living on it, I just want to be treated fairly and make it harder for the predatory resellers to take advantage of a hapless noob.