EntropiaForum.com
Go Back   EntropiaForum.com > Information > About Entropia Universe > Technical
Notice
Technical Technical discussion about your computer and Entropia Universe system requirements.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-15-2008, 22:12   #1
Luu
Old Alpha
Luu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu Amateur  
  Activity Longevity
6/2017/20
Posts: 979
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Mighty Luu Buu
Soc: The 8
Location: England
EFD: 453.02
Reputation: Amateur
Fame: 445 Achievements: 24
Please help with building a new PC

Hi,
I'm looking to buy a new desktop PC that would run EU after the graphics update but the problem is atm I only have about £600 to spend but may be able to get abit more in a few weeks, do you think it is possible?
A Friend of mine also said that the developers of Crysis Warhead saying that they have optimised Crysis Warhead so that it could run with about 30fps on a $600 Pc, do you think that EU may be as optimised?

Here are a couple parts what i was thinking of getting and i think that they are compatible:

Motherboard:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132813
£127.96inc vat

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143118
£192.66inc vat

Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950
£127.95inc vat

Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138749
£166.98inc vat

Memory
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130429
£57.99inc vat

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142388
£142.06inc vat

I will need to get a new case, HD and PSU but i think i know what case i am interested in, just have to ask my friend what his is, the PSU i'm not sure what size i would need so some guidance on that would be helpful too. The HD i'm not sure if it matters too much but i was thinking:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134684

Any tips on what to look for when choosing parts would be helpful.
Also do you think that it is worth moving to Vista?
__________________
Luu is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:26   #2
Prowler
LarsMac's Avatar
Become a premium member today and enjoy enhanced EntropiaForum features!
LarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac Trained  
  Activity Longevity
1/2013/20
Posts: 1,367
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Larson "Lars" MacDonald
Soc: Federation of Free Wanderers
Location: Hither, Thither and yon.
EFD: 1,309.86
Reputation: Trained
Fame: 214 Achievements: 10

Well, I'd recommend changing to this GFX card.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134944
Pretty much the same thing, but 60% of the cost.

I bought one a while back and it is damn good card.

Corsair memory should be adequate.

Last edited by LarsMac; 07-15-2008 at 22:31.
__________________

"If you lose your sense of humor, it's just not funny anymore."- Wavey Gravey
LarsMac is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:31   #3
Luu
Old Alpha
Luu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu Amateur  
  Activity Longevity
6/2017/20
Posts: 979
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Mighty Luu Buu
Soc: The 8
Location: England
EFD: 453.02
Reputation: Amateur
Fame: 445 Achievements: 24

ok thanks, this is the sort of help i need lol ty.



I think i just saw a plusrepasourus come your way, watch out!!
Luu is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:32   #4
Prowler
Moonbiter's Avatar
Moonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter AbleMoonbiter Able  
  Activity Longevity
3/2014/20
Posts: 1,226
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Luke Moonbiter Sinclair
Soc: Ex Cons Cadets
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
EFD: 4,107.98
Reputation: Able
Fame: 855 Achievements: 12
Style: Segna Chomper
Mineral Sense

Well, i've been doing a little research on video cards, as i'm gathering a computer for myself as well.

Your choice is really not the best. If you want more powerful card for less money, i suggest to look into Radeon HD 4850.

Or, alternatively, if you want even more power, and can add a few more euros, Radeon HD 4870 is worth checking out. (It even beats Nvidia's new gtx 260, not speaking about 8x series). Source.

As for RAM, as far as i know, ddr3 doesn't offer any significant advantage over ddr2, but costs much more. So if you're thinking about econimical setup, go with ddr2, and maybe spend the saved money on better cpu.
__________________

We find meaning where we can...
Moonbiter is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:43   #5
Luu
Old Alpha
Luu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu AmateurLuu Amateur  
  Activity Longevity
6/2017/20
Posts: 979
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Mighty Luu Buu
Soc: The 8
Location: England
EFD: 453.02
Reputation: Amateur
Fame: 445 Achievements: 24

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbiter View Post
Well, i've been doing a little research on video cards, as i'm gathering a computer for myself as well.

Your choice is really not the best. If you want more powerful card for less money, i suggest to look into Radeon HD 4850.

Or, alternatively, if you want even more power, and can add a few more euros, Radeon HD 4870 is worth checking out. (It even beats Nvidia's new gtx 260, not speaking about 8x series). Source.

As for RAM, as far as i know, ddr3 doesn't offer any significant advantage over ddr2, but costs much more. So if you're thinking about economical setup, go with ddr2, and maybe spend the saved money on better cpu.
Ok thank, liking the sound of the 4870HD, i'm a bit confused about all these different series and which ones to go for
Luu is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:56   #6
Prowler
LarsMac's Avatar
Become a premium member today and enjoy enhanced EntropiaForum features!
LarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac Trained  
  Activity Longevity
1/2013/20
Posts: 1,367
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Larson "Lars" MacDonald
Soc: Federation of Free Wanderers
Location: Hither, Thither and yon.
EFD: 1,309.86
Reputation: Trained
Fame: 214 Achievements: 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbiter View Post
Well, i've been doing a little research on video cards, as i'm gathering a computer for myself as well.

Your choice is really not the best. If you want more powerful card for less money, i suggest to look into Radeon HD 4850.

Or, alternatively, if you want even more power, and can add a few more euros, Radeon HD 4870 is worth checking out. (It even beats Nvidia's new gtx 260, not speaking about 8x series). Source.
I was reading up on them. Looks like a good step.
Though if the money is key, the 8800 GT/GTX can be had for a lot less.
If you have the peds, go with the new card.

I tend to buy stuff that has been out for a while, myself. The 4850 just GA'd, so there isn't a lot of user feedback yet.


Quote:
As for RAM, as far as i know, ddr3 doesn't offer any significant advantage over ddr2, but costs much more. So if you're thinking about econimical setup, go with ddr2, and maybe spend the saved money on better cpu.
Agreed. Not that you CPU choice is a bad one, but with that £100+ we just saved you on GFX and memory, you can bump your CPU up a notch.
LarsMac is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 22:58   #7
Dominant
Koister's Avatar
Koister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister Apprentice  
  Activity Longevity
3/205/20
Posts: 483
Avatar Name:
Kakkoii Kakkoii Rose
Soc: Rapture of Rebellion
Location: BC Canada
EFD: 2,509.15
Reputation: Apprentice
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0
Miner

Actually...

The Radeon 4850 and the GeForce 9800GTX are both $200 now.

And they are both evenly matched. So it's a choice of preference.


Stick with the corsair memory.

And use the first motherboard. The second one you posted uses DDR3 memory, not DDR2.


For the graphics card, only a few more dollars and you can get this.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143286



Sooo.. Here's your system:

Motherboard:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132813

GPU:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145610

RAM:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130429

CPU: (You can make due with a dual-core though. EU only needs to use 2 of the four cores.. So the extra 2 are a waste.)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950

PSU: (I'm assuming you have a low watt PSU right now. So your going to NEED a more powerfull one.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135197

Last edited by Koister; 07-15-2008 at 23:03.
__________________



Checkout my artwork thread
Koister is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 23:03   #8
Alpha
Nazbrat's Avatar
Nazbrat AmateurNazbrat AmateurNazbrat AmateurNazbrat Amateur  
  Activity Longevity
3/208/20
Posts: 694
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
david nazbrat mc
Soc: General Soaring Eagles
Location: Southern California
EFD: 3,278.70
Reputation: Amateur
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

For a PSU for that system your going to need about an 800W unit.

DO NOT FORGET Your CPU Cooling Unit id Recommend Heat pipe Cooling Unless you choose to use Liquid cooling if your not comfortable using water then use the Heat pipes.
[url="http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120876"]

Heat pipe systems are much cheaper than Liquid cooling methods and Give very much the same results
DO NOT use the OEM unit with that comes with the CPU. while it will serve for a short time frame for the longevity of the CPU Replace it.

Last edited by Nazbrat; 07-15-2008 at 23:07. Reason: site edit
__________________
<a href=http://www.entropiaforum.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=90037 target=_blank><img src=http://www.entropiaforum.com/gallery/files/1/6/0/8/3/th_Medic20nazbrat_thumb.jpg border=0 alt= /></a>
Nazbrat is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 23:07   #9
Dominant
Koister's Avatar
Koister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister ApprenticeKoister Apprentice  
  Activity Longevity
3/205/20
Posts: 483
Avatar Name:
Kakkoii Kakkoii Rose
Soc: Rapture of Rebellion
Location: BC Canada
EFD: 2,509.15
Reputation: Apprentice
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0
Miner

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazbrat View Post
For a PSU for that system your going to need about an 800W unit.

DO NOT FORGET Your CPU Cooling Unit id Recommend Heat pipe Cooling Unless you choose to use Liquid cooling if your not comfortable using water then use the Heat pipes.
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835118223

Heat pipe systems are much cheaper than Liquid cooling methods and Give very much the same results
DO NOT use the OEM unit with that comes with the CPU. while it will serve for a short time frame for the longevity of the CPU Replace it.
Lol Nazbrat... He's not some overclocker.. It's just a person wanting to make a new system.

Stock cooling will do fine.

And so will that PSU.
Koister is offline Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2008, 23:13   #10
Prowler
LarsMac's Avatar
Become a premium member today and enjoy enhanced EntropiaForum features!
LarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac TrainedLarsMac Trained  
  Activity Longevity
1/2013/20
Posts: 1,367
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Larson "Lars" MacDonald
Soc: Federation of Free Wanderers
Location: Hither, Thither and yon.
EFD: 1,309.86
Reputation: Trained
Fame: 214 Achievements: 10

As for HD, you are right. not as big a factor. Seagate is a good one.
One thing I have noticed about HD though.
The more storage you have, the more clutter you collect.

As for Vista, I am not yet impressed.
If you have an XP license already, save the peds and stay with that for a while. you can always upgrade later.
LarsMac is offline Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
 
EntropiaTracker.com Loot Trends
Hunting Loot: + 1.17 % Mining Loot: + 11.28 % Crafting Loot: + 10.66 %
EntropiaTracker.com Latest Uber Loots
 Bigfot Tomten Painkiller Crude Oil - 2275 PED: 10/11/2008 11:02 | Hedores Hedaya Cassapaya OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 1542 PED: 10/11/2008 09:56 | liliang baoshen liliang Frigulite stone - 1280 PED: 10/11/2008 09:53 | Playz Raul Endymion L/Murdand Groover - 1291 PED: 10/11/2008 09:45 | Sammy SoSa SammySosa OreFinder OF-105 - 2635 PED: 10/11/2008 05:24 | rob pk72 deg Atrox Mature - 7885 PED: 10/11/2008 05:21 | Sammy SoSa SammySosa Abrer Laser Sight - 2309 PED: 10/11/2008 05:07 | Maximus Ultimus Thane Crude Oil - 1080 PED: 10/11/2008 04:49 | Sarah Petal Poppet Beacin Laser Sight - 7860 PED: 10/11/2008 01:49 | Aurora Linzey Zamperath OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 3295 PED: 10/11/2008 01:45 | Jerry KrazySmitty Smith MatterDriller MD-202 (L) - 1030 PED: 10/11/2008 01:33 | Georgios Megalos Basilias Shriek Basic - 1929 PED: 10/11/2008 01:05 | H&R Circle: Go Big! Daspletor Prowler - 1826 PED: 10/11/2008 00:39 | Mahdemus Mad Marlin Dino Shoes (F,C) - 1311 PED: 10/11/2008 00:18 | Mahdemus Mad Marlin Dino Shoes (F,C) - 2163 PED: 10/11/2008 00:16 | DJjake and Ax Kreltin Young - 2496 PED: 10/11/2008 00:15 | Thesam Sam Eilde Breer M4a (L) - 1130 PED: 10/11/2008 00:10 | Laban Laban Mann Dino Shoes (M,C) - 1396 PED: 10/10/2008 23:59 | manistan wildman lee Itumatrox Provider - 1794 PED: 10/10/2008 23:58 | idvali idvali mosu OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 1590 PED: 10/10/2008 23:17 | gulle gulle hexan Solar 8V Gel Batteries - 1389 PED: 10/10/2008 23:13 | Mario Jupiter Barbosa Ambulimax Young - 7224 PED: 10/10/2008 22:35 | Benzil Zil Cloudsheen OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 11712 PED: 10/10/2008 22:09 | Mystery Anaitis Woman OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 1929 PED: 10/10/2008 22:07 | Asha Asha Vevila Atrox Mature - 1971 PED: 10/10/2008 21:49 | 7up Star Fortune Zinc stone - 1078 PED: 10/10/2008 21:22 | Gandalf GandalfSzary Szary EnMatAmp MA-109 (L) - 1098 PED: 10/10/2008 20:07 | Dreadful Visara Soulcolector Lysterium stone - 2567 PED: 10/10/2008 18:35 | Elena Scarface Neodav LifeScanner-I - 2192 PED: 10/10/2008 18:14 | Venera Venera Marss EnMatAmp MA-102 (L) - 1320 PED: 10/10/2008 17:09 | Levinstein Lev II Caldorite stone - 1342 PED: 10/10/2008 16:59 | Dean Whity Tyrell OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 2547 PED: 10/10/2008 16:42 | Arthur Starman Dent Gem Bustier (F,C) - 1027 PED: 10/10/2008 16:06 | Mystery Anaitis Woman OreAmp OA-101 (L) - 1576 PED: 10/10/2008 16:05 | TonyM1 TonyM3 TonyM2 OreAmp OA-101 Light (L) - 2918 PED: 10/10/2008 15:41 | Benzil Zil Cloudsheen OreAmp OA-102 (L) - 1621 PED: 10/10/2008 15:04 | Vincent Vince Amarillo Lytairian Dust - 1160 PED: 10/10/2008 14:34 | Lord Nestor Boeggels EMT Kit Ek-1000 - 1002 PED: 10/10/2008 13:54 | Igor Freeman Ivanov Lytairian Dust - 2309 PED: 10/10/2008 13:36 | Pflaudian CyberSeba Uschkogscheit Allophyl Old - 1426 PED: 10/10/2008 13:12 | Zacken & 00Nothing Hogglo Young - 2497 PED: 10/10/2008 13:06 |

~ Entropia Universe | Entropia Radio | Entropia Wiki | Entropia Tracker | Entropians IM ~

All times are GMT. The time now is 11:29. | Calypso Time: 11:29

Copyright ©2005 - 2008, EntropiaForum.com.
Entropia Universe is a registered trademark of Mindark PE AB.
All other copyrights and trademarks are property of their respective owners.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.