EU on Linux (WINE)

[mrproper]

Ok, back...with some notes for this post:
- Ubuntu is too dim
- sudo / no root policy on Ubuntu is lame and annoying
- Wine is annoying - it's like a half-cut apartment frame. You have to finish building the upper half part before adding furniture and decorations...

What we see below is: Ubuntu Edgy + Wine(Universe) + msttcorefonts(Universe) + EU (which decided to repopulate my /home/mrproper folder with itself )


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Logs say:
04/15/07 20:04:17: DXWSetup: DirectX Version: 4.09.00.0904.00
04/15/07 20:04:17: DXWSetup: Setup Version: 4.09.00.0904.00
04/15/07 20:04:17: DXWSetup: A newer version of DirectX have been installed already.

So, it's basically Wine's fault. Installed DX version: 9. Installing version 9, aborted. Installing DX SDK patches, impossible since DX9 is not installed for real!

[mrproper]

Ok, getting the DX9 redist package, using it... doesn't actually seem to do anything, reading a guide about Oblivion and Wine (it uses GameBryo too) and copying manually some dlls and stuff. The dxwebsetup shuts up now, so we're good to go!


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[mrproper]

So... let's see what are we missing there... oh, I know, NVIDIA drivers...

WARNING: backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf NOW!!! Then read on.

Updated NVIDIA driver, left out of the X server for a few hours while trying fixes which didnt work. Finally used a combination of drivers, new drivers, force installs, updates, manual edits and crap like that to make it re-start.

Below is a picture of a failed DX surface initialisation.


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[mrproper]

A blank screen to play with... rebooting, mounting XP drive, copying d*.dll from system32 to Wine's drive... thus making sure DX9 files ARE present for sure! Setting up a higher resolution for the desktop, and going for the windowed mode, best chances to see if it works...

And... success! Look at that nice loading screen!


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[mrproper]

Windowed mode:

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It appears I am poor, nameless and blind...



"Full-screen" mode (with higher res, do not use the full desktop, as you will kick yourself in the ass):

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XKill failed to kill that window, so beware of full screen settings.

Notes:
- Do not play in full screen at the desktop's resolution, you can't exit the game or alt-tab
- To be able to use the mouse, drag it very very very fast away from the center of the window
- Depending on Wine settings, you may/may not use the mouse/keys for actual interraction with the game
- NO TEXT WHATSOEVER!!!
- Aim mode does work, cursor mode doesn't
- If you get stuck, press Alt+Ctlr+Backspace as a last resort!
- Video performance is absolutely unchanged from what I get on Windows.
- Use whatever settings you like in the CL and Wine. Pixel shaders can be enabled, I think they actually do something.

[Vagrant]

Originally Posted by mrproper

Ok, getting the DX9 redist package, using it... doesn't actually seem to do anything, reading a guide about Oblivion and Wine (it uses GameBryo too) and copying manually some dlls and stuff. The dxwebsetup shuts up now, so we're good to go!


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some dlls? a guide about Oblivion? the two most critical things are left out?

i knew the rest can you please fill in the blanks. I found a link on google but it looked like a different solution.

[Vagrant]

copying some dx9 dlls is that not basicaly like copying the windows folder content from your windows installation where you run PE to the wine system folder?

[Dreamdancer]

Originally Posted by mrproper

It appears I am poor, nameless and blind...

I read somewhere that you need the msttcorefonts. Can't tell if that happens with Cedega, coz I didn't get that far.

Originally Posted by mrproper

"Full-screen" mode (with higher res, do not use the full desktop, as you will kick yourself in the ass):

Hm. For me, the client loader offers only my native X Res in fullscreen, and 2 resolutions (1024 and 1280 AFAIR) in windowed...


How long did it take your loading screen to setup the game in windowed? It hung a long time at "Initializing" for me, and then died. Well it was dead when I came back to look. Might try to sit this through some time.

Will try again this evening with cp windows/system32/d* as you did.

Did you ever finish the DX9 Install? Isn't quite clear.

Please give us a pointer to that Oblivion guide you used.

Regards,
DD

[layla54]

i know it easy for me to say "keep it up guys", you're doin all the hard work here.
This is becoming a really interesting thread.......

[mrproper]

Firs of all, when it comes to Linux and it's crazy antics, no matter what distro and package I may want to combine, BRING OUT THE HATCHET!!!

Ubuntu Forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/
Great source of information, the site uses a theme I wanted to create and use independently and before them, that means I will be accused of plagiarims when I will use it

Originally Posted by Vagrant

some dlls? a guide about Oblivion? the two most critical things are left out?

i knew the rest can you please fill in the blanks. I found a link on google but it looked like a different solution.

Using the search function for Wine and other games - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349764&

As Wine changes and distros change, the how-to guides are no longer usable. But combining the knowledge in each and finding out WHY you do those things, build up a new way of fixing things in your mind. If it doesn't, you don't have hacker (ethical/black hacker) abilities.

Originally Posted by Vagrant

copying some dx9 dlls is that not basicaly like copying the windows folder content from your windows installation where you run PE to the wine system folder?

Copying 30 files is not the same as copying 600mb of useless files. But you can assume that "copy dx dlls" is included in "copy all dlls". I just copied dx*.dll and d3*.dll.

Originally Posted by Dreamdancer

I read somewhere that you need the msttcorefonts. Can't tell if that happens with Cedega, coz I didn't get that far.

As stated above, msttcorefonts is the first thing I installed. Afte VU 8.7 alot of interface objects changed, and linux/odd win language font packs do not show any texts....

Originally Posted by Dreamdancer

How long did it take your loading screen to setup the game in windowed? It hung a long time at "Initializing" for me, and then died. Well it was dead when I came back to look. Might try to sit this through some time.

Wine boots in 10-15 seconds. This happens for each EXE launched (clientloader, entropia). After that, there is a slight slowdown when loading the world, since linux chugs everything into ram, and while rendering, cpu and disk seem to get low priorities. As for video performance, almost as good as in native Windows.

Originally Posted by Dreamdancer

Will try again this evening with cp windows/system32/d* as you did.

Did you ever finish the DX9 Install? Isn't quite clear.

The dxwebsetup shuts up after copying the native dx9 dlls. The DX9 redist package doesn't seem to install anything, but it does try to check if the latest stuff is installed. Don't bother with DX9 setups or updates, copy the XP dlls.

I mentioned copying d*.dll, but you may restrict to dx*.dll and d3*.dll.

Originally Posted by layla54

i know it easy for me to say "keep it up guys", you're doin all the hard work here.
This is becoming a really interesting thread.......

Well, another_very_very_big_mmorpg has a medium number of millions of subscribers. 3% of them use the game on linux via Wine and Cedega. It works very well on linux. They KNOW it, they WON'T DO anything about it (as in linux binary client). Draw your conclusion.