Crags Guide to Mining.

[Kubroz]

Originally Posted by JimHammer

i have to say this about point 1.

you say he has no proof so he cant say for sure, but there is no proof to support the opposing veiw.

logically speaking skill gains should increase the abilities they represent, otheriwse it would of been totally pointless for the game code writers to even write the code.

so with that logic alone i would assume (and remember assumption is the mother of all fec'ups) that the more points you have in a certian skill the better you will become at it.

but as everything we do involves more then one skill (im pretty sure i have seen geology/prospecting/intelegence all go up in my first couple of hours of mining)

it would be that you could have maxed out your Prospecting and Geology but your intellegence could still be really low and due to the low skill the 2 that are maxed out become restricted by the intellegence ( whats the saying a chain is only as strong as its weakest link)

as a noob to the game and someone that likes to point out the obvious logically but not always correct solutions i assume that all the things i have said (as mentioned in the very first post) are simple speculations and are in no way supported (except for me dropping about 80 bombs in about 3 hours ^^ told you i was a noob - but logic is my friend)

Logic is my friend also, but she leaves my home whenever I log into Entropia Universe

I agree, that skill lvl must be important and it is for sure, but I dont beleive that single skill gains say anything at all... You say that I have no proof for that? Speaking of logic - to proove that generall rule is false you need to point out just one exception and I did that, cause really many times I was mining areas that gave very nice skill gains but hardly any resouces at all...

Of course that doesnt prove that there is no pattern connected with skill gains while mining, but I'm sure that if there's sucha a pattern, it's much more complicated than all known to me theories suggest.

All I wanted to achieve in my previous posts was showing, that a begginer miner shouldn't trust any of theories he hears, cause oposite theories are just as good as those, that they want to beleive. If you want to become a good miner all you need is some ped for bombs/equipment and a lot of patience and luck Logical predictions and reasonable plans how to profit on mining can only bring you very big disapointment

[JimHammer]

Originally Posted by Kubroz

Logic is my friend also, but she leaves my home whenever I log into Entropia Universe

I agree, that skill lvl must be important and it is for sure, but I dont beleive that single skill gains say anything at all... You say that I have no proof for that? Speaking of logic - to proove that generall rule is false you need to point out just one exception and I did that, cause really many times I was mining areas that gave very nice skill gains but hardly any resouces at all...

Of course that doesnt prove that there is no pattern connected with skill gains while mining, but I'm sure that if there's sucha a pattern, it's much more complicated than all known to me theories suggest.

All I wanted to achieve in my previous posts was showing, that a begginer miner shouldn't trust any of theories he hears, cause oposite theories are just as good as those, that they want to beleive. If you want to become a good miner all you need is some ped for bombs/equipment and a lot of patience and luck Logical predictions and reasonable plans how to profit on mining can only bring you very big disapointment

just like real life mining.

i totally understand, after all if there were theories about where to mine that were conclusive im sure everyone would be a miner and MA would go out of business.

i guess i need to grab a load more bombs and hope like all the other miners out there look out for the global tonight saying i hit the jackpot and have been come a millionaire ( i wish)

i like convos like this - having a discussion about online games these days always seems to turn into an arguement, EU seems to have a pretty mature community

[schafie]

I have heard so many techniques for mining, so many strategies and way to many theories.

Here's one technique, strategy, theory, call it whatever you like.

BE PERSISTANT!
Don't let a few bad runs get you down!

All the other babling about mining is fun, I like it, but pretty senceless. I have tried everything but in the end only persistancy gave me luck. Not location, tools or techniques.

I had a few mininghofs. This was since I started mining (finally) last month. I got Calypso Ground Assessment and Extraction, 2K Prospecting and 1K Surveying now. So I am off for a nice start on mining:

389 Ped Iron on CND Dome 17 (I believe) using OF-102 and no amp.
2125 Ped Belkar at Nate Valley using OF-211 with OA-101 light
1779 Ped Lyst at Lymnadian District (on tp alomost) using OF-105 with OA-104.
278 Ped Iron on CND (forgot where) using Z20 wit OA-104.
1689 Ped Copper at Twin Peaks (East tp in sight) using Z20 with OA-104.
559 Ped Copper at Amethera using Z20 with OA-104 (forgot where)
Some more litlle hofs and globals of course not worth mentioning.
Worth mentioning is that OA-103 and OA-102 both didn't give me any global or hof, then again I tried them briefly compared to OA-101 light, OA-101 and OA-104. And meanwhile I litterally have been anywhere finding things everywhere. Found some gold (18 Ped TT) a little south of Solfais Crater using Z20 and no amp.


You see mining anywhere, anyhow with anything makes you find all amounts of everything. I am not going to say better gear doesn't help. But the above clearly shows it isn't nescessarilly a guarantee for better succes.

Have fun mining! Go anywhere, do some sightseeing. Gather skills. Use whatever suits your needs and budget, don't go broke on what someone tells you is best, see for yourself. Experiment! I bet I will see you soon in the Hall Of Fame listings.

[D-Low]

Originally Posted by schafie

I have heard so many techniques for mining, so many strategies and way to many theories.

Here's one technique, strategy, theory, call it whatever you like.

BE PERSISTANT!
Don't let a few bad runs get you down!

All the other babling about mining is fun, I like it, but pretty senceless. I have tried everything but in the end only persistancy gave me luck. Not location, tools or techniques.

I had a few mininghofs. This was since I started mining (finally) last month. I got Calypso Ground Assessment and Extraction, 2K Prospecting and 1K Surveying now. So I am off for a nice start on mining:

389 Ped Iron on CND Dome 17 (I believe) using OF-102 and no amp.
2125 Ped Belkar at Nate Valley using OF-211 with OA-101 light
1779 Ped Lyst at Lymnadian District (on tp alomost) using OF-105 with OA-104.
278 Ped Iron on CND (forgot where) using Z20 wit OA-104.
1689 Ped Copper at Twin Peaks (East tp in sight) using Z20 with OA-104.
559 Ped Copper at Amethera using Z20 with OA-104 (forgot where)
Some more litlle hofs and globals of course not worth mentioning.
Worth mentioning is that OA-103 and OA-102 both didn't give me any global or hof, then again I tried them briefly compared to OA-101 light, OA-101 and OA-104. And meanwhile I litterally have been anywhere finding things everywhere. Found some gold (18 Ped TT) a little south of Solfais Crater using Z20 and no amp.


You see mining anywhere, anyhow with anything makes you find all amounts of everything. I am not going to say better gear doesn't help. But the above clearly shows it isn't nescessarilly a guarantee for better succes.

Have fun mining! Go anywhere, do some sightseeing. Gather skills. Use whatever suits your needs and budget, don't go broke on what someone tells you is best, see for yourself. Experiment! I bet I will see you soon in the Hall Of Fame listings.

Sounds good to me. I need to mine more.