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Old 04-17-2008, 18:57   #1
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Breer M4(L) or Ice-Lr (U)

I am not that good at calculating the eco of a gun, so if someone could please help me.
I am using Breer M4 (l) at the moment and using them like, well, underwear. I am realy loking for an ul gun instead, and from what I can find the one that has about the same stats is the Ice-lr (u).
The markup is lower, and no markup to repair it.
Damadge per sec is slightly higher, damadge per pec is slightly lower, uses is about 2k more with the Ice, and the decay is 1 for the Ice and 2.03 for the M4.
To me this seems like an easy choice, but as I stated in the beginning. I would like some opininons on the eco part of it.

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the problem will be (unless u got lvl 100) that u wont have maxed the UL gun and miss more often and do less criticals

entropiatools.com

is a nice page where u can compare UL and L guns with ur current skill lvl
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I am using Breer M4 (l) at the moment and using them like, well, underwear.
I change my underwear once in a month.

m4a has way better economy.
here is entropedia information bout Ice-Ir: http://www.entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Weapon&id=88
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its not only the eco he will do less dmg/sec also because of low skills on the ice
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use this weapon calculator:

http://entropiatools.com/avgdmgpec.php

be sure to enter your personal HA and min-dmg for each weapon. (you can check it in item-info, rightclick the gun in auction )

have a go


edit: luthien was quicker..
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well to get any eco out of an Ice-Lr compared to the M4a you will have to unlock lvl 70 laser sniper.

Your M4a is probably maxxed , making it far more eco than an ul gun without SIB.

What are your skills today?

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I change my underwear once in a month.
Haha, well I use one M4 a day then :-)

I am not that far from maxing it, the max lvl on entropedia is not realy correct (I think or I missed something when I checked it yesterday)

But lets say that if I would be maxed on both, what would be more eco for me?
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well to get any eco out of an Ice-Lr compared to the M4a you will have to unlock lvl 70 laser sniper.

Your M4a is probably maxxed , making it far more eco than an ul gun without SIB.

What are your skills today?

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I just maxed out the M4, damadge lvl 14 and sniper lvl 17, so no I dont have the lvl 70 laser sniper
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use this weapon calculator:

http://entropiatools.com/avgdmgpec.php

be sure to enter your personal HA and min-dmg for each weapon. (you can check it in item-info, rightclick the gun in auction )

have a go


edit: luthien was quicker..
Thnx, I knew that tool was for something :-)
Gotta go home and check my skills so I can compare it later on
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From what I see using the entropiatools, is that if I am maxed on both the eco is about the same but with slightly higher damage per pec on the Ice one. I have to check my skills again to find out how far I was from maxing it.
Thanx for the link and all the advise all
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