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Old 08-26-2007, 20:16   #1
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Does anyone have an explanation for this strangeness?

browsing wiki or entropedia as its now known, i noticed a curious thing in the melee section...

Katsuichi Honor Melee Longblades
dmg:56. dmg/sec: 40.1 dmg/pec: 4.31 markup 45.32 ped


Katsuichi Valor Melee Longblades
dmg: 67. dmg/sec: 44.7 dmg/pec: 4.27 markup: 41.7 ped

i can see that the dmg/pec is better for the honor but i still feel like... hmmm actually whilst writing this ive realised that maybe im just wondering why people favour ranged over melee when one can get a 4.27 or 4.31 dmg/pec weapon for just over tt+40... for a similarly damaging ranged weapon one might have to expect to pay a lot lot more... check the stats. weird no?
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Since both of these swords are unlimited and without any skill increase bonus, you would need level 100 in the longblades proffession to achieve the eco listed in wiki. Normal player (below 5000 in longblades) would have real economy below 3 dmg/pec with them.
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But dont forget, that using melee you will have more decay on armor to, then using rifle.
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and dont forget adding amps to guns makes them a lot more efficient for dmg/pec.
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im just wondering why people favour ranged over melee when one can get a 4.27 or 4.31 dmg/pec weapon for just over tt+40... for a similarly damaging ranged weapon one might have to expect to pay a lot lot more... check the stats. weird no?
generally, eco
it is also "more cool" to be a sniper
but read more about eco here Current Melee Situation, problems of melee
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i know what you guys are getting at regarding eco on an ul item but the relative costs of a similar ul ranged weapon are still a little out of whack...

i suppose it really must come down to the fact that indeed, it is much cooler to be a sniper
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With the right skills and a good fap you will be able to favorise these two weapons, and yes then they will be VERY good for your economy, but there arent many players who can master these 2 blades ingame to make them economical.
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..and the fact that both these blades are crafted rather easily (compared to some new L-guns).

Also I can tell you first hand, that the eco listed on the Kats is way off reality for a medium skilled hunter. I have done some tests with my own average of 3k longblades skills, and my personal eco on the Honour is just above 3.0 dmg/pec.

Another fact is the terrible speed these blades decay. I can only about 30 minutes with the Honour before its broken.
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A dirt-cheap Justifier Mk2 gives you 4.27 dmg/pec with an (expensive) a204 amp. It's the fact you can amp firearms up to similar levels that you're overlooking. It's currently cheaper to skill up in sniper and pistoleer than longblades, so that's another factor.
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