"Lock" items in inventory to prevent accidental tt'ing

[Noggin]

Originally Posted by aia

A few days ago I was a bit tired - I clicked the trade terminal instead of repair terminal. I just got crazy wondering "that item should only have decayed a few pecs how come I have to repair it for 32 ped?". First after a lot of checking, looking at the item (full TT, how much it had decayed and such) - I realized I was at trade terminal and not repair terminal, and I pulled it back. As for the safeguard window - it's the same window you get when you're at repair terminal... only difference is that it says "Do you want to repair following items" instead of "Do you want to sell the following items".

Though the changes at trade terminal is good - at least now it is possible to see that you only TT the OF-101 you've been skilling crafting on and not the single OF-105 you use for mining.

However, how good they make the trade terminal, it won't protect people who are really too tired to read texts, especially if TT and repair terminal are so like, with buttons at the same places, if you've hunted several hours, you just want to repair your stuff to get to bed asap.

Buyback won't be implemented because of CND It would be too good for the apartmentless hunters at CND who might loot loads of mid-level armor if they could temporarily put it somewhere while they hunt.

Good points I think... goes to show that the current system is sometimes not quite adequate.

As for the buyback - reasonable point I suppose, but as there's a finite number of apartments at CND anyway, I don't see the harm long-term. Not sure I'd like to TT my loot on the premise I could buy it back anyway, feels a bit risky.

[Mega]

I think Entropians would find this a lot more useful than having the skill interface redesigned every 6 months.

Please let us our valuable items!

Gets my vote!!

[Akoz]

Excellent idea!

[Alien]

Yes, I would very much likt to see it implemented!

[andyzammy]

Originally Posted by Noggin

Uh, yeah, I do see where you're coming from. It would be nice, but I think a bit more understanding from MA all-round would be even better.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is, sometimes fancy systems aren't a replacement for good old-fashioned customer service, and that's what we need more of.

Originally Posted by Noggin

If MA were just a little better with stuff like this, it'd hardly be an issue.

i think you kind of answered that response yourself in the responce above - if MA were already that good, we wouldn't need to ask for this kinda stuff, as they'd already be on it. as they're not there yet, we help em out with suggestions.

Originally Posted by Noggin

I think in this case, the lock system would be great, except it'd give MA even more of an excuse to say "Well, we gave you a system and a bunch of warnings, what more do you want?"

if we already had this sytem and people were still complaining about it, hell i would agree with them. as it is, i think we're perfectly in our rights to want a thicker security blanket.

Originally Posted by Noggin

It also makes it even more difficult to prove that your mistake was actually caused by a bug/lag/whatever as opposed to something you did wrong.

i would rather have it that way than the other way around - have a bug make you make a mistake and tt a bigass item that MA won't give back. and besides i think you're wrong there - people wouldn't test those type of theories with mod faps etc. (see below)

Originally Posted by Noggin

I mean, that system wouldn't be foolproof, as you'd still have to lock your items in the first place. I bet you'd still get a few accidental TT's. It would make it a lot less likely tho...

oh certainly. you wouldn't bother locking some loot you were going to sell for 150% no matter how much tt it has. and i wouldn't cry over anything i accidentaly tt'd. and anyone who would, what would happen then would be what happenes now with the gold card (get a gc, GET A GC, shoulda got a gc, lolz nub..)
i don't think anyone'd have to worry about finding out about it if it was ever implemented. it would spread like wildfire ingame and MA'd announce such an important addition like that on their site/loader.

Originally Posted by Noggin

In fact, I think a buyback feature might be even better - everything you sell to the TT is available to buy back at the TT for 24 hours or something. This is a basic feature in quite a lot of other MMOs.

i don't like the buyback feature for security (esp when they'res a time limit involved). you might not realise your mistake until its too late. like you said about my idea, its still not 100% but the buyback is even less secure imo.

[Noggin]

So you're basically saying that you'd rather MA carry on being unhelpful buttheads, but give us some crappy bug-ridden system to save people from their own stupidity instead?

I really don't think it happens enough to warrant a safeguard. MA's policy to restore them before was better. Just them being reasonably helpful was nice. Item locking leads to added layers of protection, added confusion for noobs, and you still have risk of making a mistake. As many people say - the repair and TT interface look pretty similar too.

But none of that is the point IMHO. MA need to loosen up, and provide some decent service for a change, then none of this would be a worry. Sorry, I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

When you're talking about big amounts of money (which EU items generally are), the company who is in charge needs to take some responsibility - a duty of care if you will. It's not a lot to ask. If it costs them some overhead, so be it! They are raking it in.

You should be able to play from day to day without the worry that you might lose a few thousand bucks down a crack. They are virtual items, goddamn it. They are NOT irreplacable.

If MA weren't lazy unhelpful butt-monkeys, this poll would have never been created in the first place.

[andyzammy]

Originally Posted by Noggin

So you're basically saying that you'd rather MA carry on being unhelpful buttheads, but give us some crappy bug-ridden system to save people from their own stupidity instead?

I really don't think it happens enough to warrant a safeguard. MA's policy to restore them before was better. Just them being reasonably helpful was nice. Item locking leads to added layers of protection, added confusion for noobs, and you still have risk of making a mistake. As many people say - the repair and TT interface look pretty similar too.

But none of that is the point IMHO. MA need to loosen up, and provide some decent service for a change, then none of this would be a worry. Sorry, I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

When you're talking about big amounts of money (which EU items generally are), the company who is in charge needs to take some responsibility - a duty of care if you will. It's not a lot to ask. If it costs them some overhead, so be it! They are raking it in.

You should be able to play from day to day without the worry that you might lose a few thousand bucks down a crack. They are virtual items, goddamn it. They are NOT irreplacable.

If MA weren't lazy unhelpful butt-monkeys, this poll would have never been created in the first place.

obviously the better the service with a smile, the better everything is, but if i can't have that, i'll settle for the best i can get.

kind of agree with you about restoring the items being better, but even when they did that they said you only got one get out of jail free card then ur on ur own. dunno weather it was a scare tactic, or the truth but either way that method wasn't the best solution.

i don't think u have to choose between having great service/relationship with MA and the best (security) features, i think its possible to have both.

at the end of the day, this is all everyone who voted yes is after:

Originally Posted by Noggin

You should be able to play from day to day without the worry that you might lose a few thousand bucks down a crack. They are virtual items, goddamn it. They are NOT irreplacable.

the ones who voted no... well, dunno what the hell they're after

i think we r singin on the same page, just that you're singing Dancing Queen, and i'm singin Kum-Bah-Yah
(nah nah just kiddin, we're on the same page :P)

[Hammersmith]

Originally Posted by andyzammy

the ones who voted no... well, dunno what the hell they're after

We want them back in the loot pool ? so yea dead funny, tt is pvp for the hard of thinking

[trio]

Seen in here a few times that people have mistaken the tt terminals for the repair terminals...and vice-versa...below 2 images..from VU 9.0 changes..how is it possible to mistake the 2...honestly...

Bein in game 12 hours or more at a time and lacking from sleep I can still tell the difference..

jJust wanted to add this..not trying to start any wars

[andyzammy]

Originally Posted by Hammersmith

We want them back in the loot pool ? so yea dead funny, tt is pvp for the hard of thinking

interesting opinion. is this everyone's opinion who voted no? (or retard vote)