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Old 07-18-2008, 05:25   #1
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Revert TT sales button available for a limited period of time

People have sold in past valuable items to TT by mistake. That happened from many reasons. One of them is pour design of items and lack of diversity. All items look the same. 20.000$ in market value gun looks the same as 2$ market value gun.
In passed, MA was aware of the fact that this is a problem and they used to give back the items sold to TT. I can understand that doing that using support, or manual search after support cases, can lead to exploits, but on the other hand, is unfair to have lot of market value lost because of one moment of lack of lucidity. Not to mention the fact that there are players that claim that they have lost items, MA says they sold them to TT but the players claim they did not (I remember Etopia posts about that).
An automated system that will allow users to get back from TT the items they have sold after a limited time would solve this problem in a way that can benefit all of us.

The time limit is used in order to decrease server load. Most times a user sell to TT something he has in inventory and he needs to use as soon as he dose whatever he is doing. (hunt/mine/craft)
The time limit could be 1 day or 2 days. Even 3 hours limit would solve this problem.
I wanted to add a pool, but I think is better to see comments rather than selections. I think this should be sent to support at some point, but I trust MA staff is reading this section.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:33   #2
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It would be great to have this function. It's even used by a large selection of MMO's, no need of names here. In most of the cases you can retrieve your items before you log off. If it happens to notice your items are missing only after you logged off, the situation should be handled by support cases.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:37   #3
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There's a window which appears when you click on sell.....it lists everything being sold.....read it and you will not have any worries
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:37   #4
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This can even have a fee that will charge you for each item you take back from system. Is okay to pay something for your mistakes, but is not that nice to lose your items...
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There's a window which appears when you click on sell.....it lists everything being sold.....read it and you will not have any worries
There are crafters that skill on BP's and they sell pages of items in one trade. Hunters that sell many many items in one trade. Many look the same. I can understand that we eat the crap with EULA button that we click and we never read unless is a news about a change, but claiming that you should read the confirmation window of all the crap you meet on a computer in your life is kind of stupid.

Any system design with respect for customers has a way of preventing errors. In EU is no such thing Is just a way to punish errors. And many of the errors are errors because of lack of creativity or cheap implementation solutions. Don't say read that unless you play EU for 2 days and have no clue what's what.

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Old 07-18-2008, 05:40   #5
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The time limit could be 1 day or 2 days. Even 3 hours limit would solve this problem.
I could see this being exploited too, there's numerous areas where there is no storage but there is a TT....if you can recover sold items from TT then people could sell stuff to the TT then go to another area in game where there is a storage, retrieve the items from TT and then put them in storage.

Yes it could be averted by only allowing you to get the items from the TT that you sold them to but even then it could be exploited to "lighten" your load so you can run back out and mine/hunt, then later when you're all done, come get all your junk and head to whereever you have to go.

I'm against the idea.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:49   #6
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It can be made so you can't get back stackable, so that problem is solved.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:58   #7
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I really dont think this ia an issue nowadays
I did TT presious stuff in the past and got it back, now with the new TT's it pretty simple to see and its not like it does happen all the time or even regularly.

It would take time and money to code something wich will not add to EU
Just another feature, and if (lets take ur example) you put a $20k usd in the TT
I'm sure Mind Ark would not keep it for them selfs and return it without a fuzz
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If they return 20K$ market value and not return 500$ market value is unfair. And I know people that lost more than 500$ market value by mistaking the TT with repair terminal. I know is stupid, but when you are tired, anything can happen.
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If they return 20K$ market value and not return 500$ market value is unfair. And I know people that lost more than 500$ market value by mistaking the TT with repair terminal. I know is stupid, but when you are tired, anything can happen.
Unfair like not returning stackables either?
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I like the idea but i'm not sure it could ever work tbh
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