MA create :weekly posting of "Accounts locked since last week"

[Epictetus]

This is shadenfruede at it's worst.

[Etopia]

Originally Posted by AtamiKiangola

Imho ... a very bad idea ... what do we really gain with it ?

I am sure if MA had such a list 3 year ago , it would force themself to work a bit on the lock and ban of cheater.
I am also sure , when people see the list start growing with people they have saw , abusing pixie bug on pupugi , autocolor , scan auctioner..... a lot , and i mean a lot less people would cheat in game.
We would have never saw something like 10 or 15 top 10 player using hunting bot...

What would have bee the gain ?
Probably the skill nerf would have been way less bad , and specially for defence skill and healing...

I am not game speciallyst , but i am sure its more easy to keep general balance healthy when you have 99% of player that are playing with rules...
How many old player havent cheated and used bug back then ? 1% ? i am not sure we even can find that amount...
Not because people are all cheater , but because back then , it was comon practice , and if you whant to compette , you had no choise than cheating...

Finally , what show me that MA ban cheater , scamer ... right now?
beside bot user , som auction 101 bug abuser ( locked 3 day what a shame) and people that have buy ped deposited with stolen card, i dont ear much about people that are locked or baned....

Finally , i havent see much people whine after forum , because when a post is deleted we still can see their name and rules number... neither i have see complain because banned forumer have write banned under their name.

I havent ear much about country where you can not know what a court said when they judge someone.
You may not be abel to see or ear , or even read , what happened in the court , because som special case.But you always now if people are innocen , or guilty , and if guilty , exactly what is the problem and what they have to pay back at societty ( money , jail time , work...)

hidden things create allways more problem than show off.

And if evryone is soo bothered by the power of such a list.
I agrea to be the first name on it.
Etopia , lock 3 day , bad language , said FUMA while coloring and see her bleacher decay when she color.

[Annica]

This list will never happen.
MA dont have the time to investigate and bring up proof what account is a legal ban for scamming or what account is locked by mistake.
They barely have time to do ordinary support. It takes mostly 1-3 weeks to get an answer from support.
If they ban someone and put in list and later after say like 3 weeks discover that it was a mistake lock the person with the locked accout is allready named "scammer" for all in EU that reads the list.
And if a deal is accepted and final its not a scam MA would deal in even if you are scammed in the deal. So those scammers will never go in list.

If someone that really is a scammer that MA DO ban, they are allready out of the game and you will never see the player again, at least not with that scam-account.
Or do you want to sit and read the list and laugh and feel fine?
Theres really no point of that. Just be glad that the scammer is gone.

[Defiler]

Originally Posted by AtamiKiangola

I'd have to be one of the few to disagree.

Having a hall of shame or list is legally forbidden in Belgium and is considered here as a medieval practice. 'Your' reputation could be hurting and that could be correct or incorrect. What about the right for a trial ?

Imho ... a very bad idea ... what do we really gain with it ?

I prefer (honest) positive messages from MA, than a negative oriented communication.

Cheerz,

Atami

*coughs*

But every verdict is publicly accessible. You only have to want to access it. (Hal of fame is forced upon players neither, you have to acces it willingly, same principle)
And is I mentioned Only ava's who got tried and found guilty. (Trial in EU is handled by MA since they are the only ones who have acces to the files which can proof guilt or innosense)

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by Epictetus

This is shadenfruede at it's worst.

I don't think that's really the right word. Its not about anyone finding amusement from the misfortune of others, its about MA showing they're taking an active stance on scammers and people who break the rules, and also providing a good deterent.

There are negatives aswell, as Demoniac and Atami have pointed out.

Perhaps a list of Ban Reason|Ban Length|Number of Avatars would also achieve the positives whilst eliminating some of the negatives by not posting actual names.

[AtamiKiangola]

Originally Posted by Defiler

*coughs*

But every verdict is publicly accessible. You only have to want to access it. (Hal of fame is forced upon players neither, you have to acces it willingly, same principle)
And is I mentioned Only ava's who got tried and found guilty. (Trial in EU is handled by MA since they are the only ones who have acces to the files which can proof guilt or innosense)

A verdict is after a trial, a lock if done by MA without warning and without trial. That is a big difference.

I'm not against MA showing they have a good policy and act on everyone the same way. Showing that they are serious business and that the rules are worth more than the $ in the long run.

Imho a list is not solving the root of the problem people have.

[acaffrey]

I weighed up to pro and cons that I (and others in this thread) have thought of
AND ....
I want the list - with the ban reason specified. Not including those under current investigation on temporary bans.

[BlackMagicWoman]

My oppinion is :
NO NAMES - only the number of accounts locked and the reason for that.
It is already a known fact that MA has locked several people in the past for nothing, not even for an investigation, but because they werent careful enough!Why ruin someone's reputation if that person is completelly innocent?
Dont forget that MA is the only one to judge and to take the meanings that they themselves set for a certain account. I already lost my trust in MA...
I do believe that they would be doing this for their own interest and not for the good of our players.
Lets not go back to the middle ages! MA is the Holy Inquisition right at this moment with the decisions that they have made. There will be a lot of burned "witches" to protect their unreal so-called investments...

[Zabler]

I voted yes...

But thats only in the case that they list those who are PERM banned..
Temporary banns shouldnt be listed, loads of things can happend that isnt really one persons fault...

[The187]

When some1 is scamming another player or an exploit it means that 95 % of the time its the player base paying for it ,so MA should have a Hall Of Shame.I think this should be a fixed policy,and have a reward system for people that help catch scammers.