Remove ATH sized loot

[Mega]

The lifeblood of any MMORPG is not just in keeping its existing playerbase happy, but also in attracting and keeping new players.

With the huge increase in "Jackpots" in HOF's and ATH sizes over the past 6 months, the average loot seems to have halved.

New players are depositing their initial $10 and seeing it disappear in a couple of days.

That doesnt work IMO.


Lets get the average loot back to how it was please. My

[Ozi]

Originally Posted by hooters

I think you need to go re-read what i said. I said MA brought the concept to virtual reality, i didn't say it is identical to a lottery. People that hunt a particular mob is like picking a number for the lottery in hopes of winning the big jackpot.

hey hooters - wasn't having a go at you directly - but MA is changing EU to be more and more of a lottery - without having the prizes of a real lottery
I do agree with what you said.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Darkaner

ATH's are ruining EU completely. They might give you more money MA, but they make the game itself boring as hell.

Thanks for your time.

My guess is that ~0.1% of the loot is used for (hunting) ATHs.
So if you're implying that ATHs is making EU expensive, then you're wrong, imo.

If that's not what you meant, then I have no idea how ATHs can make EU boring.

[F1r3]

Originally Posted by il

to loot an xxx fap or cool gun or even be able to loot a full armor.

for most people liking a skillbased game progress is fun.

this includes weapon/armor upgrade, too.



to your other point if you loot ~15.000 US $

if you prefer to keep it ingame your not sane. POINT

besides that your silly rich and/or retired

there are lots of options what to do with that money

one of the most normal points would be to put it on a bank for your kids college funds.

or pay off a house/car or what the hell else you want.

and from most people i heard off with big loots by myself that they withdrew.

it even happens if old time players get in RL trouble

like vapor or optima ..if you know.

and i can only say respect for that!

RL comes first and no virtual thing can beat it.

Who do you think you are saying that I would need such an ammount of money IRL?
No, I am not rich, but I have no clue what I would spend 15k$ on IRL since I have no debts, no house or car to pay off, ingame I do have a few idea's because it would be an investment and not just pissing away the money like I would IRL.

[Ironheart]

Originally Posted by Naifas Anaconda

It's obvious that you're new to the game. Before the big ATHs, loots weren't that bad, i wish you had a time machine to just check that out.

I could point you to many posts on forums that were running before EF started, where people are whining about loot, and about sub 50% returns, and this is before the 'no loot' nerf.

PE/EU playerbase has always been :-
5% realist
25% idealist
70% whiner

And it still is.

[Francis Drake D]

No more ATH... you know why ?? Because they are being personaly delivered to players ! You don't believe my theory ?? Look ATH registry and let me know how many newbyes ( ALSO MEAN NON DEPOSITORS NEWBYES ) are inclosed there ??

To deliver a huge amount of peds to a single avatar ot team, hundreds of players have to constantly loose peds in their activities and get nothing more than scarce globals.

And yes, MA should include valuable items on high value loots. People are usually receiving oils and throwing it to TT, even thou most of oils value is shitless.

I wish MA will never give me an ATH, because i will instantly draw that amount of money from the game.

Best regards to all ( uber and whiners )

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Francis Drake D

No more ATH... you know why ?? Because they are being personaly delivered to players ! You don't believe my theory ?? Look ATH registry and let me know how many newbyes ( ALSO MEAN NON DEPOSITORS NEWBYES ) are inclosed there ??...

Newbs rarely hunts mobs that can drop ATHs, so that's the explanation for hunters.
For mining and crafting, there are many examples of newbs getting ATHs. I had a disciple who found an ATH on his 2nd day of mining.
And I know of several others, so you're theory is wrong.

Originally Posted by Francis Drake D

To deliver a huge amount of peds to a single avatar ot team, hundreds of players have to constantly loose peds in their activities and get nothing more than scarce globals....

As posted above:

Originally Posted by Vedder

My guess is that ~0.1% of the loot is used for (hunting) ATHs.
So if you're implying that ATHs is making EU expensive, then you're wrong, imo.

If that's not what you meant, then I have no idea how ATHs can make EU boring.

[F1r3]

Originally Posted by Francis Drake D

No more ATH... you know why ?? Because they are being personaly delivered to players ! You don't believe my theory ?? Look ATH registry and let me know how many newbyes ( ALSO MEAN NON DEPOSITORS NEWBYES ) are inclosed there ??

To deliver a huge amount of peds to a single avatar ot team, hundreds of players have to constantly loose peds in their activities and get nothing more than scarce globals.

And yes, MA should include valuable items on high value loots. People are usually receiving oils and throwing it to TT, even thou most of oils value is shitless.

I wish MA will never give me an ATH, because i will instantly draw that amount of money from the game.

Best regards to all ( uber and whiners )

One who has to revive 3 times to kill 1 hogglo is not an uber either (see last days in ath forum)

[kygon]

Originally Posted by Francis Drake D

No more ATH... you know why ?? Because they are being personaly delivered to players ! You don't believe my theory ?? Look ATH registry and let me know how many newbyes ( ALSO MEAN NON DEPOSITORS NEWBYES ) are inclosed there ??

To deliver a huge amount of peds to a single avatar ot team, hundreds of players have to constantly loose peds in their activities and get nothing more than scarce globals.

And yes, MA should include valuable items on high value loots. People are usually receiving oils and throwing it to TT, even thou most of oils value is shitless.

I wish MA will never give me an ATH, because i will instantly draw that amount of money from the game.

Best regards to all ( uber and whiners )

what a load of crap

[Darkaner]

Originally Posted by Vedder

My guess is that ~0.1% of the loot is used for (hunting) ATHs.
So if you're implying that ATHs is making EU expensive, then you're wrong, imo.

If that's not what you meant, then I have no idea how ATHs can make EU boring.

We have no idea about percentages, so there's no point in speculating. All I know is that those uber hofs scrolling by at lightning speed in the chat could be divided into smaller globals for a larger number of people.

As I said, I'm not in this game for the ATH's. I want a fun game with a functioning economy, trading, crafting, hunting etc where all professions have a point. I don't find gambling interesting.