Saving fuel with some magic pill... - Page 3

aa840 · 07-03-2007, 23:51

Hello Again

New reports!

Tank #2 : 7.7L/100km

Driving a little rough

Tank #3 : 7.26L/100km

Still driving rough, Normally I'm around 8L/100Kms as stated on my first post when this is my driving style :P

So far so good!

aa840 · 07-09-2007, 11:55

Tank #4 6.91L/100km

Still driving rough...

I noticed my car acctually used a little less power to go up hills, No need to downshift all the time!

Next tank I will try to drive slower, See if I save more !

Bullet · 07-09-2007, 14:27

Whoever says it doesn't work should give it a try. Excellent results JJ.

We are still expecting results from the Diesel Lupo, that's the toughest one because it's actual consumption is ultra low initially.

Orion · 07-10-2007, 02:32

the ADAC, the German automobile club, europe's leading automotive society with over 15 million members scientifically tested dozens of fuel additives and motor attachements, including extraordinary fuel saving methods like "tachyon stimulation", including these MPG-Cap pills.

the test was regulated by the standards of the European Community directive 98/69/EC for the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC).
tests were performed with various types of cars on a static laboratory test platform to eleminate side effects such as changing wind, road grip, wettness or human influences.

test result:
none of the tested additives showed a positive effect on fuel consumption. in some cases the fuel comsumption even increased.

german article

my grandafther told me the following:

Quote:

everyday a fool arrives at the station.
you just have to find him.

Bullet · 07-10-2007, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion

test result:
none of the tested additives showed a positive effect on fuel consumption. in some cases the fuel consumption even increased.

german article

Thanks Orion for digging out that study. That's an interesting outcome ADAC had. Hard to to argue with a club of that size about the outcomes of that particular study.

The remaining question is of course why the hell that product worked on my car, on JJ's car, in a driving school (where students knew nothing about it) and at a company delivery van where the driver thinks it's just to clean the injection system because of bad fuel in that particular region.

Is it a placebo effect? Well hard to say, I'm driving very sportive and always at higher revs. Therefore my fuel consumption is always higher than with a "normal" driving style. Adding that FFi stuff did not make me drive more "careful" with the gas pedal. Same with my wife, she drives how she drives.

Anyway my personal conclusion is:

If that's a placebo effect that drives down my consumption by 10% and costs USD 2, I'm willing to pay that 2 bucks.

Quote:

'Tis pleasant purchasing our fellow-creatures;
And all are to be sold, if you consider
Their passions, and are dext'rous; some by features
Are brought up, others by a warlike leader;
Some by a place--as tend their years or natures;
The most by ready cash--but all have prices,
From crowns to kicks, according to their vices.

- Lord Byron (George Gordon Noel Byron),
Don Juan (canto V, st. 27)

Bullet · 07-12-2007, 16:05

I have studied the ADAC test. They have tested all additives equally on a 800 km run. Thefore the FFi product (acc to the product manual) is not supposed to show any results as it "kicks in" around the 3-4 tank.

Maybe people get the placebo effect after driving 3 tanks

Well anyway I'm happy so far...

Orion · 07-13-2007, 02:49

the test explicitely mentions "placebo effects" having an influence on results of non-scientific tests, because people expect a decrease of fuel consumption, which leads them to subconciously change their driving.

thats not bad. but with conciously adjusting your driving style you can easily save up to 30% fuel. without extra costs for some pills.

many producers claim that their products "kick in" later, with various explanations, because they know that scientific tests become unaffordable beyond a certain time (3rd - 5th filling means several thousand test kilometers!).

since the test was performed over 800 km each test car had at least 2 fillings.
assuming that the pill's effect would increase over time, at least a slight fuel saving should have been measured.
but 0% effect measured.
at least the pills didnt block the carburetor.

i would trust your mentioned experiences more, if you wouldnt want to distribute those pills.

Bullet · 07-13-2007, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion

i would trust your mentioned experiences more, if you wouldnt want to distribute those pills.

I think you have initially misunderstood my intentions about this product. I would love to distribute those only my in country of Belarus and only in case they actually work. I don't want to end up buried in a forest by 10k angry customers.

As I have mentioned earlier I want results from as many people as I can get and that's why I have set up this thread where I personally have invited ppl to buy a pack or to get a free pack (meaning paid out of my pocket) and tell me the results. So far I have handed out 10 packs to various people and businesses (2 driving schools, several heavy commuters, 2 car mechanics and a few regular drivers) and one was actually bought by JJ (aa840).

I would only start distribution if am 100% sure not to f*ck anybody up.

I also means that I can mail you one paid out of my pocket, so you can make your own opinion based on your own experience.