***WoF 2009 Info & Rules***

[mjukis]

nice to see that support will get some more challenging tasks this year
support was really bored for most part of last season

[matthew]

HURRY for another WoF!

i do love following this one

[Hurrikane]

Originally Posted by Oleg

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WoF 2009

Erm Hurri I think you probably mean March 7/8 for the first qualifying rounds... your dates are mid-week

Erm... lemme get home (still in New York at the moment) and I'll fix all such issues forthwith

Originally Posted by jjmatrix

Awesome work Hurrikane... like always. Now down to business .

Sponsors are becoming a big part of WoF; are we to understand that this time, there will be some prizes (other than T-Shirts, which were very cool BTW)?
I'm not expecting a list of prizes... ... just if there are going to be any.

The T-Shirts from last year are yet to be sent out (apologies to Team England) but expect more than jackets this time around too

Originally Posted by GeorgeSkywalker

when is the moblist made?

More specifically do i join team before mob list orr after that is announced. Not that i'm a coward or anything ut if i see dasps in my supporrt team i'm outta here ...he he

Moblists are announced a week or two before each Stage, to keep suspense and anticipation as a factor. Expect hell I was so impressed by support's abilities as massed hunting teams last year I decided to give them something bigger to chew on... but I can safely say no Dasps in Support

Originally Posted by rhogenbe

Question:

Are we gonna have team rooms again on EF for all of the main teams?

Cheers
Siam

The Sub-Forum is up and running as of NOW, so if no-one's started your Team thread then do so... as for the private rooms, I suggest you ask 711, very nicely... possibly after he's enjoyed his New Year

Originally Posted by Diurea Dexter

lol stage 6 on CND. neverdie will have to triple the dome surface of the dome for the players. the spown is also not to good there for 3 finall teams and 100 people in suport

As a two-time finalist, Team Romania should see no problems with either the spawn or the location on the day

Originally Posted by mjukis

nice to see that support will get some more challenging tasks this year
support was really bored for most part of last season

lol you have to admit though, you do not represent the average Support team member There will be ample chance for all to shine, let's say that

Hurrikane

[Wildman Alpha]

Oh OH Pick ME Pick ME!!!!


If anyone is looking for a team player PM me I am open to join a team

[rhogenbe]

I have had some contact with people who sort of came to the conclusion that if the current unlimited amount of support players is not changed somehow that it is already a predrawn conclusion that teams like England will win due to the big amount of support they can gather.

Countries that are able to get a huge amount of support players definitely have a lot better chance then the countries who have problems getting together a decent support team at all.

I know that the idea of support teams scoring is to be able to let as much as posible people participate in the event. The issue is that a lot of the smaller countries will get even more problems getting together a decent support team as the people think their chances are pretty much zero anyway.

Mayby their should be only one 12 man (this is the max team size) support team for each country possible. Global screenshots can be used for verification. This would make the scoring chances of all teams a lot more fairer.

You could compare this to a world championship of football were instead of only 11 people on the field we have the entire nations on the field. This gives the nations with more citizens a very big advantage.

I think that if there will be no limitations for support that this could lead to the end of a very fine yearly event. This due that only very few teams will compete.

I hope this post will lead to a healthy discussion about this subject.

Cheers
Siam

[jjmatrix]

I would be a LOT happier with a set of rules in case the Main Team of a country is "down" for technical reasons, as it happened quite a few times last year. This issue made the difference between, let's say 3rd place vs 2nd place ; I'd like to see something like:

Proposal A:
- if two or more Main Team members cannot log back in, or if the Main Team cannot be re-assembled in 5 minutes, the event is "on break", so no globals will be recorded in that time-frame.

Proposal B:
- every Main Team has the possibility to call a Time-Out for a maximum of 15 minutes, once per Stage
- during this time, no globals are recorded
- a stand-by judge can/might "travel" to where the problem occurs
- the team calling a time-out must provide sufficient proof that technical problems have occurred
- if no proof is provided, the team will be penalized for the first offense, while the second offense might bring disqualification.

This is just a rough idea of some examples; I'm sure that if enough people think this should be implemented, a viable solution can be found. At least, something similar should be implemented in the semi and finals stages.

It might also provide grounds to dismiss (or confirm ) accusations that IP based "manipulations" are occurring.

I agree that this will put more burden on the judges' shoulders, but it's worth it IMO.

[Hurrikane]

Originally Posted by rhogenbe

I have had some contact with people who sort of came to the conclusion that if the current unlimited amount of support players is not changed somehow that it is already a predrawn conclusion that teams like England will win due to the big amount of support they can gather.

Siam

Those teams who foresee low Support numbers have this forum and 2 whole months to address that fact and recruit, through advertising and posting threads. All teams are in the same boat. For those who think England had an unfair advantage, I must remind you that around 50% of the Forum members, if not the game itself, consists of players from the USA. This did not guarantee a win for them; it didn't even ensure them a place in the final. Organisation is as much a factor as weight of numbers or amount of skills and equipment. However, if there are still concerns about Support, read on:

Support Scoring will be limited in varying degrees towards the Final. This means no matter how big the teams, there will be a maximum amount of points they are allowed to score each match, with more being allowed towards the later stages as Support grows and teams are fewer in number. This helps to level the playing field, while keeping the spirit of the event.

This, and other tweaks to last year's rules, will be set out as soon as I get back to England (hopefully by tomorrow) and have time to get the ball rolling in proper fashion.

Originally Posted by jjmatrix

I would be a LOT happier with a set of rules in case the Main Team of a country is "down" for technical reasons, as it happened quite a few times last year. This issue made the difference between, let's say 3rd place vs 2nd place ; I'd like to see something like:

Proposal A:
- if two or more Main Team members cannot log back in, or if the Main Team cannot be re-assembled in 5 minutes, the event is "on break", so no globals will be recorded in that time-frame.

Proposal B:
- every Main Team has the possibility to call a Time-Out for a maximum of 15 minutes, once per Stage
- during this time, no globals are recorded
- a stand-by judge can/might "travel" to where the problem occurs
- the team calling a time-out must provide sufficient proof that technical problems have occurred
- if no proof is provided, the team will be penalized for the first offense, while the second offense might bring disqualification.

This is just a rough idea of some examples; I'm sure that if enough people think this should be implemented, a viable solution can be found. At least, something similar should be implemented in the semi and finals stages.

It might also provide grounds to dismiss (or confirm ) accusations that IP based "manipulations" are occurring.

I agree that this will put more burden on the judges' shoulders, but it's worth it IMO.

I am not enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe that any IP based manipulations would be used to affect the result of the WoF. All teams run the risk of a bad connection or PC problem; as do the judges and myself. That is why the Missing In Action rule carries a lower penalty than the first WoF. When teams are split, the Judges can score the members globals individually until the team can re-form, a method that worked well last year in the few occasions it was needed. There are 87 matches with over a thousand avatars taking part; I will not be putting ANY more burden on the judges shoulders.

Hurrikane

[jjmatrix]

Originally Posted by Hurrikane

I am not enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe that any IP based manipulations would be used to affect the result of the WoF. All teams run the risk of a bad connection or PC problem; as do the judges and myself. That is why the Missing In Action rule carries a lower penalty than the first WoF. When teams are split, the Judges can score the members globals individually until the team can re-form, a method that worked well last year in the few occasions it was needed. There are 87 matches with over a thousand avatars taking part; I will not be putting ANY more burden on the judges shoulders.

Hurrikane

Thank you for making it clear; in all honesty, I didn't believe you're going to do anything about it, but it was worth a try. Personally I'm OK with what you wrote above, but many aren't. I know... too bad, whiners... etc.
Also, I'm sure many will be quite happy if we don't participate.

I brought this up because my country's team is split 50%-50% as to participate or not this year, and that was one big reason why; I just wanted to know for sure if it'll be addressed or not, since the event costs a lot of money.

Thanks again.

[kpward]

Excited to help my country again this year.




darri

[GuNOiL]

ill be back in march then