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    Unhappy Need help...

    Is there any change happened on crafting outcome?

    In the fall of 2011, I can profit from making basic sheet metal, 131% mark up at the time.

    Now I come back after a few years afk. The basic sheet metal has higher mark up around 151% and its material Narcansium 126% mark up (basically stay the same), Alicen gel 108% (lower than before).

    However, I end up losing 10%.

    100 quality bp, 1k attempts, 34% success.

    At the same time, when I craft TT food with full condition set, I actually end up profiting a bit.

    Is there anyone else got the same problem? or I missed something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrit View Post
    Is there any change happened on crafting outcome?

    In the fall of 2011, I can profit from making basic sheet metal, 131% mark up at the time.

    Now I come back after a few years afk. The basic sheet metal has higher mark up around 151% and its material Narcansium 126% mark up (basically stay the same), Alicen gel 108% (lower than before).

    However, I end up losing 10%.

    100 quality bp, 1k attempts, 34% success.

    At the same time, when I craft TT food with full condition set, I actually end up profiting a bit.

    Is there anyone else got the same problem? or I missed something?
    Are you talking about 10% TT loss?
    The basic sheet metal bp has a success rate of maximum 90%, might be that the other TT food stuff you craft has higher success rate?
    Raxxor

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxxor View Post
    Are you talking about 10% TT loss?
    The basic sheet metal bp has a success rate of maximum 90%, might be that the other TT food stuff you craft has higher success rate?
    no, I sufferred 10% loss by selling at Auction markup.
    It shows I have 90% success rate but I only got 34% actual success.
    I tried twice 1k attempts on different bp. They both give me something around 35% actual success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrit View Post
    no, I sufferred 10% loss by selling at Auction markup.
    It shows I have 90% success rate but I only got 34% actual success.
    I tried twice 1k attempts on different bp. They both give me something around 35% actual success.
    This sounds like the usual confusion of the meaning of the word 'success'.

    The few BPs I have with '90%' very often give somewhere near 35%.

    This is because the 90% success really means 'not fail', whereas the 35% is actual making of the required product.

    So one measure includes 'near success' and the other doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrit View Post

    At the same time, when I craft TT food with full condition set, I actually end up profiting a bit.

    Is there anyone else got the same problem?
    I wish I had your problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meric View Post
    This sounds like the usual confusion of the meaning of the word 'success'.

    The few BPs I have with '90%' very often give somewhere near 35%.

    This is because the 90% success really means 'not fail', whereas the 35% is actual making of the required product.

    So one measure includes 'near success' and the other doesn't.
    I know the "90%" showed on construction does not mean real success rate but I heard the actual success should be around 40-50% for a 90% bp. I remember there are couple posts mentioned about it a few years earlier.

    I wonder if MA changed crafting real success rate. There's no reason that I could profit from same product a few years back(131%MU) but lose now with even higher product MU 155-161% and its mats are actually cheaper now.

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    Yes they changed success rates numerous times this past year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrit View Post
    ...At the same time, when I craft TT food with full condition set, I actually end up profiting a bit....
    Why I'm not able to believe you?
    perhaps you're very high level
    can you verify your math again and get back to us

    for me, crafting profit (if there is any) coming always above MU
    due to resi use TTing is not an option
    Last edited by Billy Jean Ruby; 04-03-2014 at 05:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jean Ruby View Post
    Why I'm not able to believe you?
    perhaps you're very high level
    can you verify your math again and get back to us

    for me, crafting profit (if there is any) coming always above MU
    due to resi use TTing is not an option
    yes, I am sure about it. I tried twice 1k attempts. But that's when lysterium is around 106% MU. I set full condition to aim for residues (108%MU) instead of TT food product. It's petty profit though. 5-10 ped gain each thousand attempts.
    I am just wondering if MA is trying to encourage us to craft TT food instead of crafting something that other players really need.

 

 

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