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[vedder]

Originally Posted by Numberyellow

i think to clear that, i either restarted, or reinstalled the program....i can't remember which...

did u happen to get the c++ error during install?

I tried restarting, but it always attempts to install the failing patch.
I'll probaby have to start over.

Didn't get any c++ error, so probably not the same bug as you had.

But, I'll figure it out when I look into it some day... Did't post to get help solving the problem (don't have the details here anyway, as it was some days ago on my computer at home).
I just posted to let you (Numberyellow) know that you're not the only one having installation problems, and to agree that MA should take it seriously.

And Welcome to you btw.
You seem like a reasonable and a bright guy, so you'll probably do well, if you decide to 'stay'.

[Roni]

Originally Posted by Numberyellow

Another thing that struck me as odd is they give you unrepairable weapons....so they break, can't be used anymore, which FORCES you to hafta buy new, which means you either hafta find some way to make PED, or add real money....and the weapons you get level, but the level doesn't stick for other identical weapons...it's very odd to me why it was done that way...

As i said, it's not the best thing i've ever played, but it's not awful either...could look better, but if they haven't done anything with that since it's inception, they're probably not going to, so it's not worth it to complain too loudly....at any rate, i think i'll stick around, see what else there is to do...


...as a side note, i noticed someone changed my reputation to "inept"...is there any way to petition to have that removed?

Nobody forces you to buy a new gun. That's your choice. It's not that the police will ring at your door more or less requesting you to buy a gun in EU and refusal means jailtime. MA is correct...its free to enter. The problem as usual is how does one define gameplay? Is Entropia free to play? Yes, if you consider sweating or finding fruits, stone or dung as gameplay. I ll leave dancing out now as MA has broken the animation. To excercise any profession it's not free.

I wouldnt pay much attention to the reputation issue. Although some had fun in the hilarious rep wars. Bit childish I think. Let's face it: it's the forum. Your reputation in game is something you should heed.

As for the breakable weapon (L=Limited). I guess you are refering to the free weapons on the New Player Experience mission on Arkadia where you get some basic L tools, a L vehicle and UL clothes. These are ment to give you an idea on the game mechanics. At the same time the mission forces you to take a tour around the world.

The only free repairable pistol (UL/unL=unlimited) is the NIP or Next Island Pistol, which has same stats as the Sollomate Opalo (a fairly starters laser rifle) but cant be amped. You can get the NIP, a scanner (both unL) and the Next Island Blueprintbook by doing some starters missions on planet Next Island. Maybe someone can give you ride.

Maybe this is a new concept for you, but here is were MindArk makes money: decay. Everything you use degrades. It has either be repaired or replaced. In short: Unlimited tools are not (as a thumb of rule) economic until you reached a certain skill level. When you spend some time ingame you will understand this. So, why is L better?

*sometimes it more expensive to repair unL and is buying new L just cheaper (e.g. armor)
*using the better unL weapons for example will not be eco till you reach level 100 for that hunting skill...so basicly meaning you will have more misses..and every missed bullet is PED
wasted
*here is also where MarkUp (or marketvalue, value set by players) kicks in...the better unL might have such a high MU that its just cheaper to stick to L
* and more reasons

Understand that Entropia has a pretty steep learning curve. So if something strikes you as odd....then its time to do some reading or asking around cause you prolly have the wrong premisis (this is not ment as a pun). Everything is designed with a certain reason and logic.

Wish you a great time, Roni

[Serica]

Originally Posted by Roni

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I wouldnt pay much attention to the reputation issue. Although some had fun in the hilarious rep wars. Bit childish I think. Let's face it: it's the forum...

I'll say again, as this is one of those points of fundamental understanding of how things work, and suggesting it's in any way related to 'rep wars' makes me think you may not have a grasp of what has actually happened here:

The forum rep rank names are exactly the same as the ingame skill rank names.

I'll list them in order so you can see:

Rank . . . . . . . . . . . #Points
Newbie . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
Inept . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10
Poor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20
Weak . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
Mediocre . . . . . . . . . . . 67	
Unskilled . . . . . . . . . . 110	
Green . . . . . . . . . . . . 160
Beginner . . . . . . . . . . 260	
Novice . . . . . . . . . . . 360	
Amateur . . . . . . . . . . 460	
Apprentice . . . . . . . . 600	
Initiated . . . . . . . . . . 800	
Qualified . . . . . . . . . 1000	
Trained . . . . . . . . . . 1200	
Able . . . . . . . . . . . . 1400	
Competent . . . . . . . . 1600	
Adept . . . . . . . . . . 1800	
Capable . . . . . . . . . 2000	
Skilled . . . . . . . . . . 2200	
Experienced	 . . . . . . 2400	
Proficient . . . . . . . . 2600	
Good . . . . . . . . . . . 2800	
Great . . . . . . . . . . . 3000	
Inspiring . . . . . . . . . 3200
Impressive . . . . . . . . 3400
Veteran . . . . . . . . . 3600
Professional	 . . . . . 3800
Specialist . . . . . . . . 4000
Advanced . . . . . . . . 4200
Remarkable . . . . . . . 4500
Expert . . . . . . . . . . 4800
Exceptional . . . . . . . 5100
Amazing . . . . . . . . . 5400
Incredible . . . . . . . . 5700
Marvelous . . . . . . . . 6000
Astonishing . . . . . . . 6300	
Outstanding . . . . . . . 6600	
Champion . . . . . . . . . 6900	
Elite . . . . . . . . . . . 7200	
Superior . . . . . . . . . .7500	
Supreme . . . . . . . . . 7800	
Master . . . . . . . . . . 8100	
Grand Master . . . . . . 8400	
Arch Master . . . . . . . 8700	
Supreme Master . . . . . 9100	
Ultimate Master . . . . . 9500	
Great Master . . . . . . 10000
Great Grand Master . . 12000
Great Arch Master . . . 14000
Great Supreme Master . 16000
Great Ultimate Master . 18000
Entropia Master . . . . 20000

So all that's happened is that someone has increased NumberYellow's rep from 0-9 (Newbie) to 10-19 (Inept). When it reaches 20, the rep rank name will change to 'Poor'.

NumberYellow, if you clik on the UserCP link, then scroll down to the 'My Personal Statistics' section, and clik on the Rep Received tab, you'll see who gave you the +rep points.

[Numberyellow]

Originally Posted by Serica

I'll say again, as this is one of those points of fundamental understanding of how things work, and suggesting it's in any way related to 'rep wars' makes me think you may not have a grasp of what has actually happened here:

The forum rep rank names are exactly the same as the ingame skill rank names.

I'll list them in order so you can see:

*snip* o no u won't

So all that's happened is that someone has increased NumberYellow's rep from 0-9 (Newbie) to 10-19 (Inept). When it reaches 20, the rep rank name will change to 'Poor'.

NumberYellow, if you clik on the UserCP link, then scroll down to the 'My Personal Statistics' section, and clik on the Rep Received tab, you'll see who gave you the +rep points.

Yeah, i know how the rep works. i've been a forum mod and admin elsewhere. what i DIDN'T know was that it was linked to those titles. now it all makes sense..

[Roni]

Originally Posted by Serica

I'll say again, as this is one of those points of fundamental understanding of how things work, and suggesting it's in any way related to 'rep wars' makes me think you may not have a grasp of what has actually happened here:

The forum rep rank names are exactly the same as the ingame skill rank names.

I'll list them in order so you can see:
So all that's happened is that someone has increased NumberYellow's rep from 0-9 (Newbie) to 10-19 (Inept). When it reaches 20, the rep rank name will change to 'Poor'.

NumberYellow, if you clik on the UserCP link, then scroll down to the 'My Personal Statistics' section, and clik on the Rep Received tab, you'll see who gave you the +rep points.

Thank you for the information Serica, although it is kinda besides what I tried to point at. I just don't care very much about the forum rep system. Ofc anyone is free to feel otherwise. For me the forum is a way to exchange knowledge, debate some trivia, no more, no less. Hope this clears it.

NumberYellow, hope you found some usefull information on the forum so far. Good luck on your future endavours!

Regards, Roni

[vedder]

Originally Posted by vedder

I tried restarting, but it always attempts to install the failing patch.
I'll probaby have to start over.

Didn't get any c++ error, so probably not the same bug as you had.

But, I'll figure it out when I look into it some day... Did't post to get help solving the problem (don't have the details here anyway, as it was some days ago on my computer at home).
I just posted to let you (Numberyellow) know that you're not the only one having installation problems, and to agree that MA should take it seriously.

And Welcome to you btw.
You seem like a reasonable and a bright guy, so you'll probably do well, if you decide to 'stay'.

Hi again.

Gave it some tries, involving deleting cache and re-run c++ upgrader... Not sure what made it work, but it finally did.

Then I ran into next problem. The game wouldn't start.
Thankfully someone found a workaround in another thread here.
Seems MA doesn't like my CPU.

MA really aught to take these issues more seriously. They're losing all the non-geek customers.

[Nor Alien]

Originally Posted by vedder

Hi again.

Gave it some tries, involving deleting cache and re-run c++ upgrader... Not sure what made it work, but it finally did.

Then I ran into next problem. The game wouldn't start.
Thankfully someone found a workaround in another thread here.
Seems MA doesn't like my CPU.

MA really aught to take these issues more seriously. They're losing all the non-geek customers.

Good to hear you got it up and running.. as for the AMD cpu, its not just MA that has to fix it, alot of the problem lays in the hands of AMD themselves.. They have to help MA fix this problem as it's there messup.