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Old 11-20-2006, 23:01   #1
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NRF - No Resource Found - Mining/Skilling App

NRF
No Resources Found - Recording your mining runs and skill progress.


After my naming competition, here is the official thread. Anything about NRF can go in here. I have recieved many positive reactions and input from people and hope I can live up to all expectations of future releases.

What can NRF do?
To indicate what the app can do for the average person:
Mining
  • Recording drops and found deposits into seperate mining runs.
  • Chart mining runs on a map with several options
  • Customizable Maps with built in calibration tool
  • Map of Eudoria and Amethera provided
  • Share mining runs with friends using the import functionality

Skilling
  • Record you skills and professions into seperate snapshots ( not screenshots )
  • Graph the snapshots over time
  • Calculate skill differences
  • Submit your skills directly to Carebears "skill to esi" calculator

Others
  • Update Checking
  • Save Screenshots using just printscrn

All recording of info happen while your ingame. All magic happens in the background. I believe that NRF is currently THE fastest way to record skills or mining runs. No more writing info down or taking seperate screenshots!!!

How the NRF work
NRF works in the background of EU. It is totally independent as the basis of NRF is no more then a screenshot application. Over that I added special OCR routines to read the info from screen and processes it. If you feel unsafe with the idea of running it in the background of EU for whatever reason, you can also use screenshots in bitmap format and load them in the app afterwards using the batch processor.

Addresses
Official site of NRF: http://nrf.irken-invaders.net/
Direct link to manual: http://nrf.irken-invaders.net/?page=manual
Direct link to wishlist: http://nrf.irken-invaders.net/?page=wishlist
Direct link to buglist: http://nrf.irken-invaders.net/?page=bugs

Whats this topic for?
Well several things:
  • Informational post about the NRF
  • RFC - Request For Comments about NRF or its site
  • Request for new Features
  • General discussion spot for NRF
  • Fishing for Quotes & Ratings to place on the site. Preferably with full ingame name.

Final Note
If you have tried my app, I appreciate any input. Even in the highy unlikely event that you did not like it. I wish to improve the app to fullfill the expectations of the users, but I will need user input to know.

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Old 11-20-2006, 23:35   #2
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Wow this looks really nice.

The skills part, is that only for mining skills, or can you also keep track of other skills?

Last edited by Jimmy B; 11-27-2007 at 08:28. Reason: JB - Ooops, wrong post for the EFD! Ah well, I reckon you deserve it anyway :D
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Wow this looks really nice.

The skills part, is that only for mining skills, or can you also keep track of other skills?
You can record ALL skills. That is a section that is seperate from the mining possibilities. Even considering all skill screens it is reasonable to say you can record them all within 30 seconds ( depending on your computer and your response speed ). You can record your skills into a snapshots between hunts to see your progress per hunt for example.

You can check the manual on the site to get an impression with a few example pictures, but don't sue me for being a bad manual writer.
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1. What programming language do you use
2. What type of ocr, pixel comparing ?
3. The datafiles are not compatible with anything else, please store as comma seperated files, xml or whatever standard, so I can also import data from neomap
4. Date is mostly bugged, getting 1970 in 90% of the drops, why not just use system time with or without an optional offset for MA time.
5. Split ores and enmatters, maybe use Ctrl+0 for enmatter and 0 for ore or so
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1. What programming language do you use
2. What type of ocr, pixel comparing ?
3. The datafiles are not compatible with anything else, please store as comma seperated files, xml or whatever standard, so I can also import data from neomap
4. Date is mostly bugged, getting 1970 in 90% of the drops, why not just use system time with or without an optional offset for MA time.
5. Split ores and enmatters, maybe use Ctrl+0 for enmatter and 0 for ore or so
1. Combination of oldfashion C and newer fashion C++.
2. If you would forget all layers used it would be pixel comparing. That was the basis.
3. An Import is possible to make. I have export's for mining as well. All I need is a request like this one. But its not worth the effort if someone doesn't need it Till now, nobody did. It's not very hard to add. I don't use neomapper so an ready to use example file would be welcome and save me a bit of time downloading and installing. With an example I could strive to add this in the following update. ( edit: to late, next update? )
4. Date bug is known though not mentioned on the site. After saving and reloading it usually shows fine. Thnx for repeating that one, cause I almost forgot it. I'll try to fix this in the next update. Should be somewhere this week. ( edit: now fixed )
5. Splitting ore and enmatter. My question is Why? What goal/purpose would that have? What would you like to see or how do you want to see it split? The answers would hopefully give me an idea to what I should strive towards except for splitting them. Instead of different keys, I could add the knowledge to the app so it could seperate them for you. I personally have done either an Ore or Enmatter run so I never needed the option as it was already split.

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All I can say is "WoW" ... very very nice. Looks like everything I've been wanting in a mining tool. Only been to the website to dowload and check out but I am already super impressed. Can't wait to give it a try . +Rep for sure.
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All I can say is "WoW" ...
All you can say is "World of Warcraft"? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I too have only downloaded it, after reading just about everything on the web page, and have yet to actually try it. I'm at work now, so it won't be for several hours that I'm able to install it even, but here's my question:

Is there any known issue, compatability or otherwise, between NRF and PEAss in regards to screenshot capturing? If not, do they both capture screenshots and make copies in their own separate directories? Or does one override the other? Or does neither work when both are running?
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Is there any known issue, compatability or otherwise, between NRF and PEAss in regards to screenshot capturing? If not, do they both capture screenshots and make copies in their own separate directories? Or does one override the other? Or does neither work when both are running?
I must say, I dont know. I cannot run peAss at all so I still alt-tab alot, but I haven't heard any complaints about it nor can I imagine problems. I'm curious if you experience any..

NRF catches the keys, but allows the event to continue, meaning other applications will recieve the keypress if needed as well. In this case I would assume both apps make a seperate screenshot. And windows should still put it in the clipboard for you to paste. I believe the option is off by default. I haven't tested it, but it works like that for the other keys I have used. You can turn off the printscreen catching though, so you only get the peAss version.

Because it lets the keypress continue to other applications, you need to choose wisely which keys you use or it might become annoying.
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